Takedown w/Laila Mickelwait
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🗓️ 22 January 2025
⏱️ 63 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control. |
| 0:11.1 | I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein. |
| 0:13.6 | Hello, everyone. Today on our show, we have a very special guest, Lila McElwate. Lila McElwate is the co-founder and CEO of the Justice |
| 0:27.2 | Defense Fund and leader of the Trafficking Hub movement, a decentralized and diverse global effort |
| 0:35.5 | to hold Pornhub accountable for enabling and profiting from criminal |
| 0:42.5 | sexual abuse. She's been researching and combating the injustice of sex trafficking since 2006 |
| 0:50.3 | and is a leading expert in the field. |
| 0:59.3 | Lila's work has been featured in hundreds of news articles worldwide, |
| 1:06.8 | in outlets such as the New York Times, BBC News, The Guardian, and many others. |
| 1:19.2 | Her national best-selling book entitled Take Down, Inside Fight to Shut Down Porn Hub for Child Abuse, Rape, and Sex Trafficking, is a gripping true story of the battle to expose and shut down a criminal online porn empire. |
| 1:28.6 | You can find more info about Lila and her work at Lilaemichelwaite.com. |
| 1:38.1 | Here is Lila now. |
| 1:39.7 | Music It is an honor to have Lila McElwate with us today. This is such an important subject, |
| 1:56.6 | and this is something that is so important that you're doing, and I want people to learn about it, |
| 2:03.7 | and also for us to be able to really tie it in with the theme of the show about manipulation, |
| 2:12.0 | coercion, indoctrination, how these sorts of situations also shift people's self-concept and how people |
| 2:21.7 | are either knowingly or totally unwittingly supporting this whole movement. So it ties into so |
| 2:29.8 | many things. I would love for you to take a moment to introduce yourself and talk a little bit about |
| 2:34.3 | who you are and what brings you to the show. Thank you for having me and caring about the subject matter. |
| 2:40.5 | I know it's a dark subject matter. It's hard to look at, but you know, the only way that we're going |
| 2:44.8 | to make a difference is by shining a light, a spotlight on it so that people can be aware and then |
| 2:48.9 | they can do something about it. So thank you. |
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