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The Athletic Football Show: A show about the NFL

TAFS Goes Camping: Conversations with The Athletic's Bengals, Colts and Packers beat writers

The Athletic Football Show: A show about the NFL

The Athletic

Sports, Nfl, Robert Mays, Nfl Draft, Football, Football,

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 August 2025

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

Training camp is winding down, and so, too, is Robert Mays' Beat Writer Notebook. We've got two more for you this weekend, though, beginning with Paul Dehner Jr., James Boyd and Matt Schneidman, The Athletic's Bengals, Colts and Packers beat writers, respectively. Can the Bengals defense simply be good enough? What should we make of the Colts quarterback situation? Is this the season this version of the Packers takes off? Learn the answers to those questions, and a whole lot more, on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.


Rundown (timestamps are approximate)

3:00 Robert Mays and Paul Dehner Jr. from Bengals camp

32:13 Robert Mays and James Boyd from Colts camp

1:01:57 Robert Mays and Matt Schneidman from Packers camp


Host: Robert Mays

With: Paul Dehner Jr., James Boyd, Matt Schneidman

Executive Producer: Michael Beller

Producer: Michael Beller


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0:00.0

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0:27.5

Listen to the audiobook of Supremacy Now.

0:35.5

Welcome to the Athletic Football Show. It is our next beat writer mailbag coming to the Athletic Football Show.

0:37.8

It is our next beat writer mailbag coming to the Athletic Football Show feed.

0:42.5

God, I've enjoyed doing these and seeing everybody on the road.

0:45.3

It's been really, really fun.

0:46.8

This week had stops in Cincinnati, Indianapolis, and Green Bay, chatting with our Bengals writer, Paul DeNer Jr., our Colts writer, James Boyd, and our Packers writer, Matt Schneidman. Just a heads up, get some interesting background noise on a couple of these. The charm of doing these on the road, on the sidelines, sometimes. You're dealing with a lot of unsettled factors. So please bear with us on some of that. The auto quality is fine. It's just we're going to

1:11.1

have a little bit of stuff going on in the background. There was a tour that walked into the Green Bay

1:15.5

Packers visiting locker room when Matt and I were recording in there. So the joys of podcast

1:19.9

recording on the road for the athletic football show. But really enjoy the conversations with all

1:24.8

three of these guys. Let's get to them right now.

1:32.3

Music enjoy the conversations with all three of these guys. Let's get to them right now. Joining us now, it is our Bengals writer here at the athletic Paul Danaer Jr. Paul,

1:36.5

how you doing, man? What's up? Good to see you here. Great to see you. It's good. It's good to be

1:40.2

here. I'm happy to be in Cincinnati. Always enjoy my visit here. I feel like I've come, this has been part of the trip every year for a very long time. Being as close as, we're on the way for you every time. There's nowhere you can go that we aren't on your way. It's very true. If you're coming back from the East Coast, it's on the way. It's really close to Indianapolis. And so that's Typically the ones I pair together is the indie Cincinnati swing, which is kind of going to be like that this time.

1:46.8

Excited to be here because there are a lot of things I want to ask you about. I feel we can talk about the Trey Henderson stuff at the end. You and I have talked about this so much that I'm not interested in anymore. I'm not allowed to talk about Trey Henderson if I don't do a deep sigh first of exhaustion, but I'm happy to talk about it. Let's talk about it at the end, because I'm actually more interested in some of the other stuff than I am in that, just because we've hit it so many times this off season. Let's start with the offensive side of the ball. I feel like this is a team where it's kind of harder to come up with questions, curiosities, unanswered elements of who this team is supposed to be on

2:34.6

offense.

2:35.4

So as you're thinking about last year's version of the Bengals, that was a top five offense

2:39.6

by virtually any measure, incredibly productive throwing the ball, where are the areas

2:44.0

you're most interested in and how they can potentially take another small step heading into

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