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The Athletic Football Show: A show about the NFL

TAFS Goes Camping: Conversations with The Athletic's Bears, Raiders and 49ers beat writers

The Athletic Football Show: A show about the NFL

The Athletic

Sports, Nfl, Robert Mays, Nfl Draft, Football, Football,

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Robert Mays is just about off the road, but we've still got a double Beat Writer Notebook weekend for the masses. This episode features Kevin Fishbain, Tashan Reed and Matt Barrows, The Athletic's Bears, Raiders and 49ers beat writers, respectively. Can Ben Johnson be exactly what Caleb Williams needs? Is Pete Carroll the man to get the Raiders on track? Are the 49ers as ready for a rebound season as they appear to be? Learn the answers to those questions, and a whole lot more, on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.


Rundown (timestamps are approximate)

2:44 Robert Mays and Kevin Fishbain from Bears camp

32:56 Robert Mays and Tashan Reed from Raiders camp

1:02:57 Robert Mays and Matt Barrows from 49ers camp


Host: Robert Mays

With: Kevin Fishbain, Tashan Reed, Matt Barrows

Executive Producer: Michael Beller

Producer: Michael Beller


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0:00.0

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0:07.0

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0:16.0

Supremacy by Parmy Olson, described as a riveting tale by the new scientist, winner of the Financial Times Business Book of the Year, and now the Waterstone's nonfiction book of the month.

0:27.5

Listen to the audiobook of Supremacy Now.

0:35.5

Welcome to The Athletic Football Show. I'm Robert Mays. It's our second beat writer notebook of

0:40.7

the weekend. I did not end up going to Las Vegas for Raiders' joint practices, unfortunately.

0:45.8

Had some stuff going on at home where I had to be at home. But I still wanted to talk to our

0:50.3

beat writers there because I'm so interested in both of those teams. So we did that.

0:58.1

Chat it with DeShan Reid, chat with Matt Barrow, just about the state of both of those teams.

1:08.5

And then me and Kevin Fishbane got together at Hallis Hall to go over my personal insecurities, fears, hopes, dreams as they relate to this version of the Chicago Bears. We're kicking it off with Kevin. Let's get to that conversation right now.

1:16.9

Joining us now from Hallis Hall in Lake Forest.

1:20.0

It is one of our Bears writers at the Athletic.

1:22.8

I'd say that again.

1:23.7

Ken Fishpan, how are you doing, man?

1:25.1

I'm good.

1:25.7

It's good to be back on with you.

1:27.0

Good to be back at another Bears training camp where hopes are high. I guess. I mean, my first question, and it's always tough. I have a ton of respect for this media core. It is, I was literally thinking this while I was watching the press conference with Ben today. It's crazy how many people are in that room compared to other teams. It's wild. Like the amount of people who cover this team. But I think the questions asked and the answers is an incredibly high level discussion for a press conference setting. Like, you guys do a very good job. And he's willing to engage with you in a way where you do get something out of that where I think that's not always the case.

2:02.6

So I appreciate that.

2:07.6

But there's also a lot of coverage of this team based on what the press corps looks like.

2:12.4

And I think a lot of the tone of it from afar has been that the offense has been a mess.

2:18.9

And so I'm curious, as someone who is here every day and has watched this, is the sky is falling mentality around all this right now warranted in your mind?

2:23.4

Well, I mean, we are prone to gallows humor around here.

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