Hello and welcome to Table Talk, the Spectator's Food and Drink podcast. I'm Laura Prendergast.

And I'm Olivia Potts. And today we're delighted to be joined by Tom Elliott. In 2012, Tom and his

brother James co-founded Pizza Pilgrims, which evolved out of a single street food stand in London, selling Neapolitan-style pizzas.

Pizza Pilgrims has since become one of the most celebrated British pizzerias, and its latest opening will be in Brighton in July.

Tom, welcome to Table Talk.

Such a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me.

Tom, as regular listeners will know, we always start at the same place, which is the beginning,

and ask you, what are your earliest memories of food?

My earliest memories of food.

Do you know what?

There's such an apt question, because I've just started a little dinner for founders of restaurants,

because it's quite a unique thing to have founded a restaurant.

And the conceit of the dinner is that three founders cook for all the others

and they have to cook their like Prusian Madeleine.

They have to cook their like childhood moment.

And my one is Toad in the Hole.

I do not care who knows it. But Toad in the Hole to me is like

just the warmest of warm hugs. How some Hackney-based restaurant has not done a sort of full

Toad in the Hole based concept, I do not know because it feels like it's just about ready for a full

post-modern comeback, I reckon reckon and who would have been cooking you

toad in the hole was your mother my mother would have been cooking me toaden the hole so we she with my father

ran pubs that had a sort of good quality pub food skew and things like toad in the hole were like

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