Hello and welcome to Table Talk, Spectator Life's Food and Drink podcast. I'm Olivia Potts.

And I'm Laura Prendergast. And today we are joined by Sarah Langford. Sarah is a barrister and author of the bestselling in your defence, Stories of Life and Law, which follows 11 real life cases in the criminal and family courts.

Sarah, thank you for joining us.

Thank you very much for having me.

Sarah, we'll start where we always start on this podcast.

You grew up in Winchester.

What was food like when you were little?

Classic 80s fair, I'd say, because I'm the eldest of three girls.

My mum was a primary school teacher, so she worked.

And I think, you know, I think in the 80s, we just knew less about nutrition, maybe.

And so our diet predominantly came from the freezer.

So most suppers would have gone straight from the freezer into the oven and then onto our plate,

which, you know, now all of the mummy blogs with all of their kind of healthy recipes would be a gassed at.

But then I think it was pretty standard, spaghetti hoops on toast, chicken nuggets, mash, that kind of stuff.

Quite a lot of brown stuff.

Did you learn to cook when you were little?

No.

So my mum, interestingly, my mum is completely uninterested in food or cooking

until the last couple of years where she's really got into it.

And I don't know if that's because you can get recipes online.

Recipes are just much more accessible.

There's a big thing.

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