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Hello and welcome to you, Table Talk, the Spectator's Food and Drink podcast. I'm Lara Prendergast.

And I'm Olivia Potts. And today on Table Talk, we're joined by Carol Heyman.

Carol is an English writer, broadcaster, actor and director.

Carol, welcome to Table Talk.

Thank you. Lovely to be here.

Carol, we're going to start where we always do at the beginning

and ask you, what are your earliest memories of food?

Ah, well, my earliest memories of food?

Ah, well, my earliest memories of food are refusing it.

And I would have been about four years old.

And I didn't want to go to school.

I hated school.

I was frightened.

I cried a lot.

I was a real cry baby.

And I wanted to stay home with mummy.

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