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Hello. O.ukuk forward slash voucher. Hello and welcome to Table Talk, the Spectators' Food and Drink podcast.

I'm Olivia Potts.

And I'm Laura Prendergast.

And today we're delighted to be joined by Tim Haywood.

An award-winning food writer, broadcaster and proprietor of the bakery, Fitzbillies in Cambridge, Tim writes regularly for the FT magazine and often appears on BBC Radio 4.

Following the bestsellers, food DIY, knife and loaf story, his eighth book, Steak, The Whole Story, is out at the end of May.

Tim, welcome to table talk. Thank you very much indeed. Love you to be here.

Tim, we always start at the beginning on table talk. What are your earliest memories of food?

Oh gosh. I know precisely what it is and it's absolutely terrifying. The first thing I actually remember

so seeing being prepared and and me consuming it was we didn't have very much money

when we were kids and my mum used to do this thing where she'd have we'd have white bread and you'd

cut the slice into quarters and then that would be deep fried or fried in the pan that the bacon had been

fried in that morning and then she'd smear mashed potato on top of it and you put your

little infant thumb into the middle of it and made a hole into which she poured ketchup.

That sounds delicious. I think it's pretty gorgeous, but I've got a cardiologist who would

strongly disagree. I was going to say, do you still make it now? I made it a while back, actually,

just because I've been writing about it,

and it's one of those things whereby you really can't go back with food memories.

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