John your stated purpose and passion from the outset of your message I believe was effectively transferred to the heart of everyone in attendance.

And we are great to God for you and for that message. Thank you. Now most of the

pastors here so you've made this wonderful, incredible call for this radical risk-taking life.

Most of the pastors here are laboring faithfully in the context of their local church, preaching faithfully in the context of the local church, caring faithfully for those who have been entrusted to them in their local church. They have been their years or desire to stay there for years,

hopefully to die in their church, to follow the example of men like you who've had a ministry in one church

over the decades. So for many of them, if not most of them, they're not going anywhere.

For them, what does radical risk-taking sacrifice? What does that look like? Well, it'll look different for each of them, but, and one of the reasons it will be different for each it will be different for each is because what's hard for one

to do is not hard for another to do that ought to be done. And so it's not hard for me to do what I just

did. There's so much deep personal gratification in spending time in the word and preaching that this is no sacrifice.

So I don't count what I'm doing here is going outside the camp.

It might be for you to spend the time it would take away.

I mean, you're a people person, you know, you're one of these Meyers-Briggs-E people, and you get

strength by being with people instead of being with a book. That might mean study more.

Go deep, work at it.

Go against your grain.

So that's one reason things look different. Circumstances are different, but the principle is, the camp is the place where it's comfortable, it's comfortable, it's secure, it's relatively easy, and outside the camp is Galgotha and other things.

And Jesus went outside the camp and then he tells us take your cross and go with me. So you all know

what's hard for you to do in the cause of love. I'm not saying asceticism in an artificial

way here. Create an asc aesthetic thing like, you know, take a cold shower every morning.

I mean, you have a neighbor and you're scared to talk to him.

You have a colleague and that colleague needs to be confronted about some bad habit. It's annoying. You have a marriage problem and you've

been running from it forever and you need to tackle it because it's going to be emotionally

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