Maybe it's a pipe dream.

But I want people to understand blockchain at least enough that they'll be prepared

when it completely not, yeah, when it completely wipes out understanding of the internet.

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T.J. Miller needs absolutely no introduction.

Jan, with two ends, doesn't either.

I've been watching your show for quite a while.

I am such a crypto guy and I'm not like meme coins.

But I just, I'm so fascinated by the space.

So I've watched you many, many.

I've done a Jen rabbit hole where I just put you on and watch and it's next.

And a lot of it is, you know, months past.

It doesn't even relate to the current crypto market.

But I'll just sort of watch and watch and watch and then follow the.

Yeah.

Okay.

So what's your, what's your favorite interview? My God, how could I even

choose? But I like it when you interview the big ones, you know. Okay. When you go down a rabbit hole,

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