Hi there. Welcome to the Personality Hacker Podcast. My name is Joe Mark Witt.

And I'm Antonio Dodge.

I want to make a statement. I want to see how you react to this statement.

There is no such thing as cause and effect. It's an

illusion. There is no such thing as cause and effect. There are only emergent

properties of systems.

So just think about that for a minute.

What did I just say?

No such thing is cause and effect.

There's only emergent properties of systems.

So you want to get my reaction to that?

Yeah, that'd be great.

But I want to let that person's listening.

I want to kind of sink in for a minute.

Let them just kind of feel what that feels like.

Maybe you should unpack what you mean by

emergent properties of systems. What does that mean? Because that those are all

five dollar words. Sure. So what's an emergent property of a system? So with

cause and effect we assume that if you do a B happens as a result

Right but the reality of the situation is nothing is one thing that causes anything else.

Usually there are multiple nodes in a system working in tandem or working in concert together

to create a desired result or an emergent result, whether it's desired or not. So for example like this this podcast you're listening to the

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