Don't hold anything too tightly. Just wish for it, want it, let it come from the

intention of real truth for you, and then let it go. For me our soul is like it's

unbound, it's limitless, but we will use words to limit ourselves. When people

stop believing that somebody's got your back or Superman's coming, we turn to

ourselves and that's where you become empowered. Courageous participation attracts positive

things. I'm Gwyneth Paltrow. This is the Goop podcast, bringing together thought leaders,

culture changers, creatives, founders and CEOs, scientists, doctors, healers and seekers,

here to start conversations because simply asking questions and listening has the power to change

the way we see the world. Today is no exception. I'll let Elise fill you in on her extraordinary guest.

All right, over to Elise. Our guest today is author, Elisey Crawford, who just published a stunning

memoir called Notes on the Silencing. In it she shares a harrowing, heartbreaking and important

story of the assault she suffered when she was 15 years old while attending St. Paul's boarding

school and the school's subsequent attempt to silence her. Today we talk about how the school's

grave mishandling of her assault was just as traumatizing as the assault itself. The ways this

kind of abuse becomes parts of systems and normalized and she shares quite possibly the most

beautiful explanation I've heard of what healing means to her. For context, I also attended St. Paul's

and Elisey was five years ahead of me. I'm so thankful that she shared her story in her memoir

and that she joined us to discuss it today. People have said to me so much that I'm brave

for telling this story and I know that comes from a place of generosity and grace and I receive

it as such. But why? Why is it brave to tell the story of what they did to me? I didn't do anything

wrong, right? So what we're anticipating all of us is the shame that I must feel and that is the

shame that they put into me, frankly. I mean, with a violation of my body, a violation of my

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