Welcome to Pushback. I'm Aaron Mate. Back in 2013, the Syrian government was accused of committing a chemical attack in the town of Gupta that killed reportedly hundreds of people.

The U.S. media and Congress united around calls for President Obama to bomb Syria,

because after all, this alleged chemical attack crossed the red line that Obama had laid down.

And it initially seemed that Obama was going to bomb Syria,

but then at the last minute, he pulled back,

and soon a deal was reached between the U.S., Russia, and Syria

to destroy Syria's chemical weapons stockpile.

Now, since then, reporting has come out that shows that the U.S. government had evidence

that at the same time as it publicly accused Syria of guilt, it privately knew that in fact

the insurgents around Gupta had likely launched

this attack. According to Seymour Hirsch, reporting in the London Review of Books, the British

military lab portend down found that there was no match between the sarin found in Gupta and the

sarin known to be in the Syrian government arsenal. And there was even intelligence gathered showing that Syrian-based insurgents had obtained

sarin and serene materials from Turkey.

Well, now a new study based on open source evidence attempts to resolve the question of what

happened. And it concludes pretty

decisively that, in fact, contrary to what was publicly claimed, it was indeed Syrian insurgents

who are responsible for the sarin attack in Ghouta. I'm joined now by some of the people behind

this study. Adam Larson, Michael Cobbs, and Sarr-Wilf.

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