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The Vergecast

Switch 2: the good news and bad news

The Vergecast

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Tech News, Technology

4.44.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Last week, The Verge's Ash Parrish got to play with the new Nintendo Switch 2. We got over our outrageous jealousy long enough to ask her all about it: what it's like to hold, how the screen looks, whether the mouse-control is any good, and much more. Ash gives us the good news, and the bad news, on everything we now know about the Switch 2. (We do talk about the price, but we recorded before the Trump administration launched its massive new tariff push — so you can consider the price even worse news than we thought.) After that, The Verge's Tom Warren joins the show to talk about Microsoft's 50th anniversary celebration, how the company has stayed so resilient for so long, and whether AI is really the next five-decade project for one of the world's biggest companies. Finally, we answer a question on the Vergecast Hotline (866-VERGE11, or email [email protected]!) about how you should change your shopping habits in a tariff-filled world. It's hard to know where we'll be in a few months, but it sure doesn't look like gadgets are getting any cheaper. Further reading: The Vergecast was nominated for a Webby, which means we can win a Webby People’s Voice Award and that’s voted online by you! So we’d love your support. You can vote at the link:https://bit.ly/3DXFgpN Nintendo Switch 2 hands-on: it’s all in the games All of the Nintendo Switch 2 news, hands-ons, and trailers Donkey Kong Bananza was best in show at the Switch 2 hands-on I’m not sold on the Switch 2’s mouse-like controls Microsoft turns 50 Why I’ve covered Microsoft for 25 years How Microsoft made it through 50 years Trump’s tariffs mean you’ll pay more for all gadgets Trump’s tariffs put the iPhone in a tough spot From The Wall Street Journal: Here’s the iPhone. Here’s the iPhone With Tariffs. New Star GP, the game The General Magic documentary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Vergecast, the flagship podcast of Clippy.

0:06.7

I'm your friend David Pierce, and I just need to briefly, very quickly tell you about this new

0:11.3

gaming obsession that I have.

0:13.2

So there's this company called New Star Games.

0:15.3

They make games like Retro Bowl and Retro Goal, which are these like old school-looking

0:19.9

kind of Nintendo-level graphics

0:22.1

sports games.

0:23.7

Bowl is football, goal, is soccer.

0:25.5

There are a couple of other ones, too, but those are the best ones.

0:28.2

I love these games.

0:29.6

You can play them on mobile.

0:31.3

They're also on the Switch, and I think maybe on other consoles, but I mostly play them on

0:35.4

my phone, sometimes with a controller, sometimes just on my phone.

0:38.4

And they're perfect. There are these like very simple, totally sort of grocable with your fingers,

0:43.5

kinds of games, but still somehow they're endlessly complex, and I could play them forever.

0:48.5

And there's a new one called New Star GP. It's a racing game. GP stands for Grand Prix.

0:54.0

That is like my favorite game in a very

0:55.9

long time. It is this exact right balance of there's a lot to do and you have to kind of, you have to

1:01.4

know the tires, you have to know the conditions, you have to follow the racing line to win, like all

1:04.7

this stuff. But the game is still very simple to play. And with racing games in particular,

1:08.8

that is a really, really, really hard balance to

1:11.2

strike. GP has sort of ascended to this rare plane of, like, games I can play for as long as I

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