Welcome to the Judge John Hodgman podcast. I'm Bill of Jesse Thorn. We're in chambers this week

clearing the docket and joining me from Orland Man is a man wearing a month a teazard that says

monster. I guess a human monster Judge John Hodgman. It says monster on my t-shirt which you can see

Jesse because though you are in Los Angeles where there be monsters end of the map and here I am

across the country through the I guess miracle of teleconferencing. I don't know.

The burden of teleconferencing, yes. The curse blessing, the the clessing of teleconferencing,

you can see that my t-shirt says monster. It's an antique brand of fireworks. The rest of the t-shirt

has a picture of a monster on it. Yeah, that's a cool t-shirt. But what I realized looking, well

thanks I saw an ad on Instagram and just had to have it. Yeah. But what I noticed is because in

teleconferencing I can see myself which is bad but I'm reversed also. I never realized that

that you know what monster spells backwards Jesse. What? Restroom. Almost. Yeah, pretty much.

Almost spells restroom. You know John, I had a friend in middle school. Still a still a friendly

acquaintance. Patrick Michaels. Right. You were all in middle school at the time. Let's be clear.

Yeah, I'm glad. Thank you for clarifying that. No, I was in elementary school. I was just super

cool. Wow. You know what the older kids? My friend Patrick Michaels could say any phrase

backwards immediately instantly. Was the most extraordinary gift skill talent that I've ever

observed in person. He can still do it. I talked to him a couple years ago. He works for pro-publica

now. He's a journalist. Yeah. And I confirmed he can still do it. It's amazing. I mean, honestly,

when he went to interview at pro-publica, I imagine that they said, okay, we've taken a look at your

investigative reporting and it looks pretty good. Can you say phrases backwards instantly? And he was

like, it's sliny or whatever. Assol, Bup, Orp. Yeah. Pro-publica backwards. There you go.

Show me to the backwards monster, please. I need to use the toilet. It's a common phrase.

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