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Sweden Screwed Up

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Politics, News, News Commentary

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2020

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Swedish officials eschewed sweeping shutdowns when the pandemic hit. Some reasoned that Sweden could still power down if COVID-19 cases spiked. But the spike arrived, along with a high death rate, and still there’s been no policy change. 

Guest: Lena Einhorn, author, filmmaker, and former medical researcher. 

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0:00.0

Lena Einhorn has one of those resumes that's almost hard to believe.

0:10.1

She's a physician, but she's also a bench scientist.

0:14.1

The thing is, she didn't want to stay behind a bench.

0:17.1

My thesis was in virology and tumor biology, but I've been working as a filmmaker and author for the last decades.

0:27.3

Lena lived in the U.S. for a while. She made films for Lifetime Television.

0:31.6

Now she lives in Sweden, where she's won the Swedish National Book Award.

0:36.6

But she still has that scientific habit of asking questions, a lot of questions.

0:43.2

And since the coronavirus pandemic started up, she hasn't been able to stop asking.

0:49.1

When the epidemic in Wuhan started, I was following it, you know, and I noticed that nothing was happening in Sweden.

0:58.7

So I started making contact with the state epidemiologist of Sweden, asking him, you know, what's going on?

1:08.4

You know, they're warning that there would be a worldwide pandemic

1:12.4

and you have to prepare.

1:13.7

You know, I was reading an Lancet article.

1:16.3

What did they say to you?

1:17.4

So he said, well, there are a lot of, you know,

1:20.5

a lot of projections from very loose data.

1:23.9

You know, we shall see what happens.

1:25.6

That's what he answered.

1:26.7

It was an email.

1:28.5

This was back in February, about a month before the United States would shut itself down.

1:33.9

Lena thought our own government should be doing more earlier.

1:38.1

The state epidemiologist disagreed.

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