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Guaranteed Human.

Hi, everyone.

I'm Rachel Zoh.

And I'm Roger Berman.

And you're listening to Works for Us.

Where we talk to people about what works for them and their relationships.

And, of course, what doesn't.

Okay.

So this is a very, very exciting episode for our listeners, for Roger and I.

Today we're talking to a couple whose relationship actually has a couple of decades on

mine and Rogers, which we've actually never gotten to say that. So married for 44 years,

and together for over 50, Suzanne Summers and Alan Hamel's

romance is what relationship goals are truly made of. And they make it look so effortless and fun.

I don't know how they do it, but hopefully we're going to find that out today. Now, Suzanne, of course, has captured audiences, including us for decades in leading roles such

as Chrissy Snow on the hit show, da-da-da-da-da-come-knack-on-

I mean, I had to sing that one.

Sorry, there's no way people...

How many times have you heard that? How annoying is that?

We're so sorry, but we couldn't resist.

I mean...

Nobody knows the lyrics.

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