Sustainable Ambition: Redefining Success Without Burning Out with Kathy Oneto
The Lindsey Elmore Show
Lindsey Elmore
5.0 • 529 Ratings
🗓️ 24 July 2025
⏱️ 19 minutes
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Summary
With practical tools and a refreshing take on success, this conversation invites you to slow down, reflect, and align your ambitions with what actually matters.
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Ambition operates like pressure: too much or too little can backfire
‣ 00:00:01 – 00:00:31
Kathy introduces the "ambition curve" and how finding your sweet spot leads to optimal performance. Our culture pushes a ‘more is more’ mindset—but at a cost
‣ 00:01:00 – 00:02:30
Kathy breaks down how external influences and idealized standards can lead to overload and dissatisfaction. Motivation doesn’t have to be pure to be effective
‣ 00:04:30 – 00:06:00
Lindsay and Kathy agree: extrinsic motivators can be valid stepping stones toward deeper purpose. The 4 sustainable motivators: vision, purpose, values, and joy
‣ 00:07:00 – 00:08:30
Kathy walks us through the core motivators behind her framework for sustainable ambition. Ambition changes throughout your life—and that’s okay
‣ 00:09:00 – 00:10:30
From resume goals to legacy building, Kathy shares how our definition of success evolves over time. Ambition isn’t an identity—it’s a state that can ebb and flow
‣ 00:13:00 – 00:15:00
Learn how detaching from ambition as a fixed trait creates space for rest and recovery. The Sustainable Ambition Framework: Right ambition, right time, right effort
‣ 00:16:00 – 00:18:00
Kathy outlines her 3-pillar model and how it can help prevent burnout while still pursuing what matters.
Resources & Mentions:
- Kathy Oneto’s Book: Sustainable Ambition
- Podcast: Sustainable Ambition with Kathy Oneto
- Website: www.sustainableambition.com
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | This idea is similar to pressure and performance, where if there's too much pressure, you don't perform, if there's too little pressure you don't perform. |
| 0:12.2 | And I think ambition is like that, too, where ambition where we don't have enough ambition, we can start to become stagnant. |
| 0:21.9 | Kathy Onetto, welcome to the Lindsay Elmore show. |
| 0:26.1 | Well, Lindsay, thanks so much for having me. |
| 0:28.7 | I'm so excited to talk to you because we're going to talk about sustainable ambition today. |
| 0:36.2 | Because so often I think people get it in their head that we have to |
| 0:40.2 | achieve, achieve, achieve. And we get into this mindset of if we don't just have more and more and |
| 0:49.6 | more all of the time day in and day out, sometimes without us even realizing it, it can take a toll on us, |
| 1:00.3 | emotionally and physically and relationally. Talk to us about how you see this more, |
| 1:10.2 | more, more mentality just present itself. |
| 1:14.4 | And what are the costs of living in this way? |
| 1:19.8 | Yes, it's a great question. |
| 1:21.4 | Well, our society today, you know, really impacts us to lean into kind of wanting to do more, more and more. And, |
| 1:31.8 | you know, we are as humans naturally influenced by our external world. And so that's a natural |
| 1:41.4 | thing. But as you said, there are these costs to us feeling like we need to do more. |
| 1:47.8 | So how does that show up? |
| 1:49.1 | Well, one way that shows up is, you know, in today's world, kind of this idea of the fear of |
| 1:54.8 | missing out, right? |
| 1:55.6 | Thinking that we always need to be doing things or we're seeing other people doing things. And what can happen |
| 2:01.9 | is we start chasing more, more, more, and not checking in to really determine, well, is that |
| 2:09.0 | something I really want to do? It can also start to lead to us, you know, putting more on our |
| 2:16.5 | plates than we really have the capacity for. |
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