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Susie Wiles is Wrong: Trump Will Try to Stay in Power in 2028 - TEASER

Gaslit Nation

Gaslit Nation

Society & Culture, Politics, News

4.84K Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Gaslit Nation reads through the ego and lies of Enabler-in-Chief Susie Wiles' interview with Vanity Fair, where she pulls the Nuremberg defense: I was just following orders! As Trump's primetime rant to the American people reminds us, Wiles is wrong: Trump plans to stay in power. 

In this week's bonus show–available in full for our Patreon subscribers at the Truth-teller ($5/month) tier and higher, Gaslit Nation cuts through the nonsense to expose Wiles and the rest of Trump's creepy cabinet defending her. They're thick as thieves, sticking together to brace for congressional investigations should Democrats return to power. Wiles and Trump's other enablers, riding his corrupt coattails into power, see the blue waves coming for Republicans in special elections across the country, including in historically red districts. Her interview also reveals some intriguing insights into the MAGA succession battle–and why we should keep our eye on a possible Ivanka/Jared comeback post-midterms.

To our Patreon community that keeps Gaslit Nation going: see you at Monday's salon at 4pm ET for our holiday party. Get ready for fun surprises as we celebrate and bring in the new year with hope and defiance. To join the fun, grab your membership at Patreon.com/Gaslit–discounts are available, and you can give the gift of membership this holiday season. Thank you to everyone who supports the show–we could not make Gaslit Nation without you.

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Hey everyone, welcome to this week's bonus show. I am your host, Andrea Chalupa, and this is Gaslit Nation, a show about corruption in America and rising autocracy worldwide. So needless to say, we are busy. I want to first and foremost thank Bethany, the head of the outreach committee for hosting

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Monday's salon when I was down and out.

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I will be back this Monday for the Gaslit Nation holiday party on Monday, December 22nd at 4 p.m.

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Eastern.

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So wear your delicious holiday sweater, whatever that may be,

0:41.3

however you express yourself this time of year, I will do the same. And I will come with some fun

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updates and surprises for you, our dear listeners, in our Patreon community who make Gaslit Nation

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possible. Thank you so very much.

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And if you want to join our Monday salons, get bonus shows, get all Gaslit Nation episodes,

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ad free, and so much more, you can sign up at patreon.com forward slash gaslet.

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That's patreon.com forward slash gaslet.

1:10.2

And you can give the holiday gift of membership.

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And discounted annual memberships are of course available. Thank you so much to everyone who supports

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the show. We could not make Gaslit Nation without you. This coming week, all Gaslit Nation wants for Christmas is a new Supreme Court.

1:30.5

to help us envision that. The viable path on how to get there will be on here. On here,

1:37.9

on our show will be legal scholar Mediba Dunney, the author of the new book, The Originalism Trap.

1:46.4

It is jaw-dropping what is revealed when you look under the hood of far-right

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gaslighting when it comes to their legal warfare against our democracy.

1:57.3

Again, the conservatives, the very fringe of the conservative movement had a big

2:02.3

old plan, a decades long game. So we're not going to get rid of this rot overnight. It is going to

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take us playing our own long game, which is what we talk about all the time on this show,

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bringing on experts to see what does that look like, and getting in where we fit in

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