Hello and welcome to the Buller podcast.

I'm your host, Tim Miller.

Delighted to welcome back to the show, staff writer at the New Yorker.

It's New Yorker Week at the Buller.

Her most recent book is The Divider, co-authored with her husband, Peter Baker. It is Susan Glasser. Susan, how are you feeling last night? You witnessed history yesterday. The longest state of the union and the republic. You know, what is there to say? What is there to say was it was long and it was wrong that's my

headline no i mean you know right it's uh an hour and however many minutes of our life we

won't get back no it was under two hours is that right it was. Well, I was live streaming and it felt like six hours to me.

It just, there were a lot of exclamation points.

There were six different medal ceremonies in the course of the event.

And that does not include, of course, the tribute to the gold medal winning American men's hockey team.

I think Donald Trump thought maybe he was hosting the Grammys or something, you know.

Toastmaster, I had said here was our big mistake.

Okay.

After, in retrospect, after he instigated a deadly riot at the Capitol, you know,

there was one view that me at the Bullwark had, which was, you know, we should impeach

and convict and arrest him, probably.

Okay.

There was another view that led to Merrick Garland.

So it's like, you know, let's let the process play out.

Norms. We'll see how it goes. Maybe he'll just disappear. It seems like there was a third door,

which was Joe Biden naming him like the permanent chairman of the board of the U.S.O.

And just letting him travel the world, giving awards to people.

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