Jonathan Chait: The World's Worst People
The Bulwark Podcast
The Bulwark
4.6 • 11.6K Ratings
🗓️ 26 February 2026
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
No matter how often Trump tries to change the subject, he keeps getting caught in his own attempted diversions. He blames Somali immigrants for importing bribery, corruption, and lawlessness while he sits behind the resolute desk taking a million dollar bribe to bitch about a new bridge. Or he showcases the US men's hockey team while his lying FBI director gets caught red-handed pretending he just happened to be in Italy when the team was playing. And the more Trump tries to run away from the Epstein case, the more blatant the administration's cover-up becomes. Plus, distancing from the craziest parts of the DSA is part of the anti-authoritarian project, Mamdani and AOC have avoided some of their fan base's worst impulses, Newsom put his name on a number of policies that will dog his ambitions, and the Dems need to reclaim improving public schools as one of their key issues.
The Atlantic’s Jon Chait joins Tim Miller.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. |
| 0:15.0 | I'm your host Tim Miller. |
| 0:16.5 | A couple of things really quick. |
| 0:18.5 | We have sold out the event in Dallas, March 18th. |
| 0:21.0 | On March 19th, we're in Austin. It is the biggest venue we've ever had an event at. We're going to have a fun guest. Who needs a guest, actually? I'm going to be there. Sarah's going to be there, JVL. It's South by Southwest that week. So make a little trip out of it. You know, make a little spring trip. if you live somewhere cold going down to Austin, Thursday, South by Southwest, Friday, never Trump podcast, Saturday, go to LaBarbecue, rainy street. You know, do something. Come on down to Austin. Tickets at the bulwark.com slash events. Next, I've heard from you. Tim Robinson is wearing a hot dog suit, not a banana suit. We regret the air. Okay? I get it. All right. I'm talking a lot. I'm doing my best. It was kind of the same shape. In my brain is the same shape. Cucumber soup? It's hot dog suit. It's not a cucumber suit. Lastly, I told you we're going to have a new guest today. |
| 1:12.6 | That was wrong. We had a scheduling snafu. So instead, despite that noise that you just heard of somebody |
| 1:19.2 | interrupting, I've decided to do a one-hour monologue today on ethics and decorum in hockey locker room |
| 1:27.2 | behavior. So prepare for that. Then we're going to |
| 1:31.8 | get into Eric Kirk. We're going to do an hour on Eric and Kirk's connection to global jewelry. |
| 1:36.4 | Now, instead, a friend of the show who came in off the bench, who we appreciate very much, |
| 1:42.4 | a staff writer at the Atlantic. It's Jonathan Chate. How are you doing? Thank you. I'm gunning for sixth man of the year in the Bull Word podcast. Tim Hardaway, Jr. People have strong thoughts about hockey. We're not going to talk about that. I want to start here. Who killed Jeffrey Epstein? Any thoughts on that? |
| 2:01.7 | Who killed Jeffrey? |
| 2:06.8 | If you're trying to give me to confess, I'm not going to do it unless you put me in the stand. |
| 2:10.6 | Until we find out who killed Jeffrey Epstein, we're going to keep talking about him on this podcast. |
| 2:12.3 | Two things that are worth mentioning. |
| 2:13.8 | I'm going to get into some other news of the day. |
| 2:16.0 | Hillary Clinton is back in the news. |
| 2:18.4 | She is testifying in a closed-door interview, which will be videotaped in Chappaqua, Jim Comer, Jamie Comer. Very serious. Really, he's just, |
| 2:26.1 | he's like OJ. He's out there searching for the real, real killer here, the real rapist. He's |
| 2:31.2 | found Hillary. He's going to interview her about the Epstein situation. |
| 2:36.0 | Simultaneously, more seriously to that, if you want to check out the board, take feet, I was talking to Roger Solenberger. |
| 2:41.6 | There is a cover-up happening. We don't know the veracity of the underlying information, but there was a, she was a woman when she made the report. |
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