Susan Cain & Daniel Pink: Writing, Longing, and the Search for Meaning

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🗓️ 16 June 2022

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

What do we lose when we avoid sorrow and chase empty delights, when we mask our pain and feign cheerfulness, when we profess to have no regrets and insist on turning every frown upside down? Those questions are at the heart of two new books by our curators Susan Cain (“Bittersweet”) and Daniel Pink (“The Power of Regret”). Today on the show, they sit down with Rufus to swap notes on the writing process, share what they’ve learned from each other, and imagine what the world might look like if we all learned how to embrace negative emotions. Show Notes: » Check out our previous interviews with Susan and Dan » Use the code PODCAST20 at nextbigideaclub.com for 20% off an express membership

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0:00.0	LinkedIn presents.
0:10.0	I'm Rufus Griskem and this is the next big idea.
0:13.2	I've been thinking lately about this song written by Charlie Chaplin of all people and made
0:31.9	famous by Nat King Cole. Listen to the lyrics.
0:35.1	It kind of sums up the modern American disposition. What Susan Cain calls our culture of
1:04.6	a normative sunshine and yet with no disrespect to Charlie and Nat I can't help but wonder has
1:10.9	that compulsory cheer always served us. Sometimes when our hearts ache isn't it okay to just let
1:16.9	them make? Listen to the song on repeat as I've been doing lately and you realize that what makes
1:22.2	it so marvelous isn't the message of hope it's the longing in Nat's voice the way he sings like a
1:28.1	band who can't banish his despair. After a few plays I found myself asking what do we lose when
1:37.4	we avoid sorrow and chase empty delights when we mask our pain by performing optimism when we
1:43.9	profess to have no regrets and insist on turning every frown upside down. I'm not alone in
1:50.7	wondering these things they've been top of mind for two of my favorite people two people who also
1:56.0	happen to be curators here at the next big idea Susan Cain and Daniel Pink in their new books
2:02.6	Susan's is called bittersweet dances the power of regret they give the negative emotions sorrow
2:08.9	longing and regret their beautiful do my colleagues and I love these books so much we send sign
2:14.8	copies to everyone with the next big idea club hardback subscription and over the next few weeks
2:19.8	Susan and Dan are going to be doing something extraordinary for all of our club members
2:24.2	participating in exclusive Q&A's creating e-courses and on top of all that they were kind
2:29.6	enough to carve out time to join me on the show today every week I get to talk with brilliant people
2:35.6	on this podcast but I don't often get them to talk with each other that's one of the reasons
2:41.1	the conversation you're about to hear is so special Susan and Dan swap notes on the writing
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