Survivors’ Discussion Continued | BONUS | Saskia’s Story
Betrayal Seasons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
iHeartPodcasts | Glass Podcasts
4.6 • 655 Ratings
🗓️ 16 March 2026
⏱️ 17 minutes
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Summary
The survivors from the roundtable in Episode 7 continue their conversation.
Content Warning for rape, tech-enabled sexual abuse, nonconsensual intimate image distribution, and mental health struggles.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.9 | Guaranteed human. |
| 0:15.6 | I'm Andre Gunning, and this is a bonus episode of betrayal. |
| 0:20.6 | For this bonus episode, we'd like to share more excerpts from the Survivors group discussion |
| 0:25.6 | because these women, Ember, Natalie, Stephanie, and Saskia had so much more to say than we could |
| 0:32.3 | fit in one episode. This discussion was moderated by a professional. |
| 0:38.4 | Having conversations with survivors is really near and dear to not just my heart, but to Rain's heart. |
| 0:44.9 | Megan Cutter is the chief of victim services at Rain, the Rape, Abuse, and Incess National Network. |
| 0:51.4 | Rain has been working with us throughout Season 5. |
| 0:57.2 | Healing is not a linear journey. |
| 1:03.6 | It's not a straight line. So I want to talk about that concept of all of you and would love to get a sense of like, how do you define healing for you? And I think this can be a conversation of like |
| 1:08.9 | how this feels, how does this show up? So let's talk about healing. I think this can be a conversation of like how this feels, how does this show up. |
| 1:11.3 | So let's talk about healing. |
| 1:14.2 | I think that's the hard part. |
| 1:16.8 | There's no like arrival. |
| 1:19.6 | That's Ember. |
| 1:20.6 | It's been two decades since she found out her then-fiancee was drugging and raping her. |
| 1:25.9 | If you had asked me 20 years ago, I would have been like, yeah, by 20 years in, I'm |
| 1:33.1 | all better. |
| 1:33.7 | I'm not even going to think about this anymore. |
| 1:35.5 | I wish it was something where we could just flip a switch and never think about it again. |
| 1:39.9 | My capacity has changed, though. |
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