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Betrayal Seasons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Love Is No Defense | EP 8 | Saskia's Story

Betrayal Seasons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

iHeartPodcasts | Glass Podcasts

True Crime, Relationships, Society & Culture

4.6 • 655 Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Advocates fight to change the law that protected Mike Levengood.   

Content Warning for rape, sexual violation by an intimate partner, and nonconsensual intimate image distribution.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast, guaranteed human.

0:04.5

Hi, everyone, Andre here. I have some exciting news to share.

0:09.4

ABC has turned Betrayal Weekly into an eight-episode anthology, which means each episode

0:15.6

features one of your favorite Betrayal Weekly stories. You'll get to see the people involved,

0:21.9

hear from people who have never spoken before, and actually see where the story took place. We are so proud and excited to

0:28.9

share it with you all. It's called Betrayal Secrets and Lies, and you can watch it every Sunday at 10 p.m.

0:36.8

Eastern Standard Time, 9 p.m. Central.

0:39.9

Please check it out.

0:45.9

Earlier this season, we went through Saskia's divorce trial.

0:49.5

We talked about all the hurdles that Saskia had to overcome, all the insults she had to endure,

0:56.4

just to end her marriage. But I want to go back to that trial for a second, because there's

1:02.2

one more moment you need to hear. It's the devil in the details. What's on the screen here is

1:09.8

Vendant's Exhibit 3.

1:13.2

This is audio from the middle of the divorce trial, during Mike's cross-examination.

1:18.9

Saskia's attorney began by quoting Mike's initial divorce filing.

1:23.5

Paragraph 8 says all of these acts were consensual, and in paragraph 10, that all of these allegations are false and defamatory, cause a serious threat to your good reputation.

1:34.5

You recall making those statements?

1:37.8

Yes.

1:39.2

The statements about this being a betrayal and that all acts were consensual, those were false statements, correct?

1:49.5

Those are not false statements.

1:52.3

Well, we know that not all the acts were consensual, right?

1:56.5

I maintain they were consensual, absolutely.

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