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Proxy with Yowei Shaw

Yowei Shaw

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4.8 • 589 Ratings

🗓️ 24 July 2024

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Content note: This episode discusses sexual violence.

An Emotions Beat episode about proxy conversations, restorative jusice, and the questions we may never get to ask.

Yowei has a problem. She's having trouble explaining the show to people who don't get it. She knows proxy conversations work. But why would talking to someone who wasn’t directly involved in your situation help you feel less stuck?

For the first stop on this quest, she turns to a much higher-stakes version of proxy conversations: vicarious restorative justice. Alissa Ackerman, a criminal justice professor and co-founder of Ampersands Restorative Justice, has helped survivors of sexual violence talk with people who committed similar kinds of harm — when the actual person who harmed them is unavailable, unwilling, or unsafe to talk to.

In this episode, Yowei and Alissa investigate why talking to a proxy can sometimes offer something close to the real conversation: accountability, honesty, vulnerability, remorse, and the chance to ask questions you may never get answered otherwise.

From the episode

— Alissa Ackerman — criminologist and author of Healing from Sexual Violence: The Case for Vicarious Restorative Justice— more about her work: www.alissaackerman.com

— Ampersands Restorative Justice: www.ampersandsrj.org

New to Proxy? Try Bisexual Wife Guy for a classic case, or Dead Eyes by Proxy for another emotions beat episode about why talking to the “wrong” person can still help you get unstuck.

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Ever wondered why some trends are just suddenly everywhere?
0:05.1	Newsflash, nothing gets popular by accident.
0:09.0	I'm Brittany Luce, and on the It's Been a Minute podcast, I take the things you and I are both obsessing over
0:14.3	and show you the invisible forces behind the scenes that make us love it or hate it.
0:19.8	Be smarter about what you're consuming. Listen to the
0:22.8	It's Been a Minute podcast today. Hello, I'm Yo-Wei Shaw. Welcome to Proxy. On the show,
0:36.8	we facilitate conversations between guests with niche emotional conundrums and strangers with shared experience.
0:43.1	And today, we have a really interesting guest.
0:46.5	Every time I talk about her and her work, people go, whoa.
0:50.4	But first, I have another guest here with me, Proxie's very own reporter producer, Kim Nadervein Peterson.
0:57.4	Hi, Kim.
0:58.4	What's up, Yo-A?
0:59.6	Okay, so Kim, what do you do on the show and who are you?
1:03.8	Basically, I think about story ideas.
1:06.3	I figure out how we can find those people.
1:09.7	I convince them to talk to us.
1:11.2	And I do a lot of pre-interviews.
1:15.6	Which works because I'm very extroverted.
1:18.7	Kim is the extrovert in this relationship and I'm an introvert.
1:21.4	So this is why this works.
1:22.9	It's very complimentary.
1:24.5	Fun fact about Kim, that makes her the perfect person to work on proxy is that her father is a sociologist.
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