All right we are back with an all-new keep it.

I'm Ira Madison, the third.

And that's just not important right now because I'm Louis Fertel and we have with us a reality

TV goddess. right ma'am mam mam

Sandra is here kind of yeah sure the poverty of crooked media is here. It's okay. You said it not us. We can disagree later, Ira.

It's John Lovett, who does podcast here. You bet. But also. But also.

Was on the show Survivor. I and you were mysteriously lovingly I would say

eliminated first and you got to watch it live with a bunch of gay people at

high tops that's right which was a pleasure to see you got to watch it live with a bunch of gay people at High Tops in the East Side,

which was a pleasure to see.

But man, what a journey and you've already talked about it some, but now we're going to get nasty

about it.

Okay, let's do it.

First of all, let's just talk about how surprise were you to get eliminated.

How surprised? Oh, so I was not surprised at all. Yeah. I really wasn't. It was not, it wasn't surprising. What actually was very hard was in the hours

leading up to it was trying to figure out how to get out of what I felt like was an unstoppable situation because I think part of why I like I was a little

bit nervous more than nervous I was dreading a bit what it was going to be like once it aired in part because I had no idea how I'd be presented and I had no idea if how it felt to be in it is what it would look like when it was on screen but it is and

basically somebody had a bit of a meltdown he sure did one of the most

member I'm not a survivor aficionado but that has to be one of the craziest

meltdowns in the history of the show especially for episode one and I had

thought about what it would be like for someone on my tribe to have a meltdown

and I thought about what it would be like for someone to turn on me.

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