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Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

Surviving our Catastrophes: Celebrating the Resilience and Renewal of Survivors with Robert Jay Lifton, M.D.

Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

Dr. Steven Hassan

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education

4.8 • 684 Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

I speak with the acclaimed psychiatrist and my mentor, Robert Jay Lifton, M.D., about his new book, Surviving Our Catastrophes: Resilience and Renewal from Hiroshima to the Covid-19 Pandemic. Lifton’s research on thought reform and the psychology of totalism, specifically his study on “brainwashing” in China, has been widely regarded as groundbreaking. His book Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism (1961) was used in my deprogramming. It was Lifton who encouraged my career which has spanned 47 years. In this new book, Lifton delves into “Survivor Power” and the transformation from victimhood to survivorship. He emphasizes the importance of drawing on the knowledge and wisdom gained from surviving traumatic experiences to continue living meaningful lives. The book takes inspiration from historical examples of survivors who have endured unimaginable suffering and trauma. Lifton highlights the remarkable responses of individuals who, in the face of unspeakable horror, have created activist movements, converted their experiences into art and literature, and demonstrated the resilience of the human spirit. From the people of Hiroshima, who responded to the atomic bombing by creating an activist “city of peace,” to the survivors of Nazi death camps who combated mass killing and showcased their healing through art and literature, these examples serve as beacons of hope. Learn more about Steven Hassan and Freedom of Mind Resource Center. Visit freedomofmind.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of the influence continuum.

0:10.5

And today, I feel so honored and blessed to have my mentor, Robert J. Lifton,

0:18.5

psychiatrist, on with me again.

0:21.5

I've been honored to have several interviews

0:24.5

with you, Dr. Lifton.

0:26.4

And I wanna say before I give all of your book titles

0:30.5

and talk about your latest book,

0:32.7

I just attended a cult conference in Louisville, Kentucky of the International Cultic Studies Association.

0:41.8

And almost every presentation referenced your eight criteria of thought reform and brainwashing

0:51.3

from your groundbreaking book,

0:54.3

Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism,

0:57.0

the book that was used on my deprogramming back in 1976.

1:02.9

Yeah, that's satisfying to you.

1:05.3

And your work is now being applied to neuroscience insights into different parts of the brain,

1:15.2

which honestly I think you'll find fascinating when the videos go up.

1:19.8

I'll share the links with you.

1:21.5

But for my listeners, and maybe you haven't heard of Robert J. Lifton, I want to just say, you are a psychiatrist

1:31.0

and an author whose subject has been things from the Holocaust, mass violence, as well as

1:39.3

renewal in the 20th and 21st century. Your award-winning books include Death and Life,

1:46.3

Survivors of Hiroshima, which won a National Book Award,

1:50.1

the Nazi Doctors, Medical Killing and the Psychology of Genocide,

1:54.7

another book winner, book prize winner,

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