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The WallBuilders Show

Survey Shock: Churchgoers And Worldview

The WallBuilders Show

Tim Barton, David Barton & Rick Green

Wallbuilders Show, Education, Constitutional, Church, Christianity, History, Conservative, America, Family, Christian, Biblical, Religion & Spirituality, Wallbuilders.show, Government, News, Politics

4.82.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

What happens when people fill pews but drift on first principles? We sit down with researcher George Barna to unpack a new survey of frequent churchgoers that reveals only 11 percent hold a biblical worldview, a third prefer socialism to capitalism, and support for Israel rarely moves beyond prayer. It’s sobering, but it’s also a roadmap. If we can see clearly where formation has failed, we can rebuild how we teach, mentor, and live the faith in public. We dig into why worldview isn’t an aca...

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0:00.0

Welcome to the intersection of faith and culture. Thanks for joining us today, where we're

0:10.1

taking on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical and constitutional perspective.

0:14.6

Rick Green here with David Barton and Tim Barton. You can find out more about wallbuilders

0:18.7

at our main website, wallbuilders.com. Wallbuilders, all one word, dot com. And that's where you can get all kinds of great materials and just kind of catch up on what's going on in the world from a biblical, constitutional and historical perspective. And then if you want to catch up on the radio program, that's wallbuilders. Show. Wallbuilders. Show to catch up on some of the programs from the last few weeks and months. David and Tim, we got quite a week for Thanksgiving. I mean, Bill Federer will be with us. A little later in the week, we'll, of course, be doing a Thanksgiving show of our own. We've got, let's see, Mike Berry coming in tomorrow. I'm going to be talking about some of the stuff First Liberty is doing and restoring faith in America. of course a great week to do that. And then today, George Barna will be with us. Kind of give us the lay of the land as we're approaching the end of the year, start thinking about what we need to be doing to restore faith in America in our country next year. So it'll be good to have George on, but it's going to be a great week, guys. It really will. There's a lot of fun stuff,

1:11.0

as you kind of alluded to, that we are excited as we don't always lay out a week in advance

1:17.1

and kind of know where we're going that week. And, you know, especially with this year early on,

1:23.6

with all the things happening after President Trump's inauguration, what Congress has done,

1:27.4

of course, with Charlie's murder, and then the shutdown of Congress. There's just been a lot of

1:32.7

unique things this year that have really kind of steered more of our weekly conversations than

1:40.8

sometimes we're able to lay out and direct a little bit. But this week, I'm super excited. Very often the night before, right? Like, we'll be like, oh, my goodness, this happened. We got to totally change our plans for what we're going to do for the show. So, yeah. It's a fact. And it makes us really grateful that we have really good friends that are gracious and kind. And we're like, hey, can we book

2:01.5

you another time? I'm so sorry. We need to cover this topic or, you know, whatever it is. And so all that's just think. Can you come on in like 20 minutes? Those kind of friends too. You know, that's a fact. We've had a lot of those this year. So and actually, I feel like we're even setting up now, like part of why we're thankful and why we should be thankful from the Wall Builder

2:18.0

show our program.

2:19.5

But with that being said, there's a lot of things today I'm excited to get into.

2:25.5

Mostly that this, I would say this might be the one show this week that is not going to be as Thanksgiving filled.

2:33.3

Because as we're looking at the survey that

2:35.1

George Barna has helped to do. And we actually, we talked to a counterpart from the Family

2:41.3

Research Council maybe a month ago when this study first came out and I kind of did a breakdown of

2:48.3

what we are seeing inside of churches.

2:51.2

That's what the survey, the study really honed in on, was the frequent church attenders,

2:57.2

the people that are going to church at least once a month, but often they're in church

3:01.8

three and four times a month, meaning on Sunday service.

3:05.3

So these are the people that are the most frequently in churches,

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