It's the intersection of faith and culture. Thanks for joining us today on the Wall Builders

show. Rick Green here with David Barton and Tim Barton. Our websites are wallbuilders.com and

wallbuilders.com. Dot show. Dot show for all the radio programming and then wallbuilders.com for

everything else,

including, by the way, it's not too soon to start telling your friends that are legislators

about next year's legislators conference. You're going to get to hear more and more of those

presentations from the pro-family legislators conference over the holidays and through the next

few weeks and months. But just take them, when you hear them, take a link there and send it to your friends that are legislators and tell them they are missing out if they have not been joining us for the annual pro-family legislators conference. Okay, guys, Mike Barry, we'll be joining us in a little bit. First Liberty, of course, a great attorney, Marine, just fantastic guy. And we're going to be talking about actually faith in America. And it might

mean two things. We'll find out. Well, it's going to be great to have him on. We teased it a little

bit yesterday with him coming on. And he's been a great friend. We've known him for a lot of years.

Of course, he is a military veteran. But then he has been working with First Liberty. But more

recently, he was actually working for Senator Ted Cruz up in Washington, D.C., which we got to see him up

on some of our pastor's briefings up there, reconnect with him again. And so now he's back working

in Texas, again, not just up in D.C. with a Texas senator. And so it really is fun that we've been

able to connect and work with him for so many years on so many different topics and issues.

And I say all this to give a little context, because he's someone who understands on multiple

levels the significance of the First Amendment, obviously First Liberty with Kelly Shackleford over in

Dallas, all the work they've done for decades, protecting, preserving defense. of the First Amendment, obviously First Liberty with Kelly Shackleford over in Dallas.

All the work they've done for decades, protecting, preserving, defending the rights of individuals pertaining to the First Amendment, whether they be teachers or students or mayors or

city council or average parents and citizens, you know, grandma's going to the public park,

whatever it is.

They've defended all kinds of people who have had their religious liberties, diminished or

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