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Right now, an update, but it can be an update about Washington as well, from Buffalo and from Albany and from New York City.

Kathy Hockel joins the lieutenant governor of the Empire State.

Kathy, I want to go right to the stimulus

in the great contention that aid is necessary for states, cities, and towns.

And there's a debate about this.

The only thing that's going to catalyze that are furloughs and layoffs.

How close are you and Governor Cuomo to furloughs and layoffs?

Well, first, thanks for I have me on the show, but let me first address even why there's even debate as to whether or not we need stimulus.

I don't understand how anyone would conclude that we cannot survive without a stimulus package.

Here's why. We never anticipated having to deal with a global

pandemic when our budget was put together. Not New York, not any other state in the nation.

We have incurred extraordinary expenses. We've had a huge hit to

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