With Bloomberg you get the story behind the story, the story behind the global birth rate,

behind your EV batteries environmental impact, behind sand. Yeah, sand, you get context.

And context changes everything. Go to Bloomberg.com to get context. Welcome to the Bloomberg surveillance podcast. I'm Tom Keene.

Daily, we bring you insight from the best in economics finance investment and international relations

find Bloomberg surveillance on Apple Podcasts soundcloud bloomer.com and of course on the

Bloomberg. Bob Woodward joins us of course, on the Bloomberg. Bob Woodward joins us, of course, with the Washington Post and 19 books

across a storied career rages the book.

It is wonderful, it is well deserved.

And what I know Bob Woodward, if you have been out on the interview trail I saw the Jeff Goldberg interview at the Atlantic and with Mr.

Swan over at the Axiosa in the recent hours. I want to focus today Bob Woodward on this historic moment, the debate, and also

look back to Richard Nixon and the tapes of another time. As you know Bob Woodward, Michael Rosenwald could stop you cold. He stopped me cold a year ago with that

photograph over the shoulder of Sam Irvin and there was John Dean testifying at the Watergate hearings.

There were tapes then and tapes now.

Did you know as you taped President Trump that it would have an impact bunch of kin to what we saw from the Watergate hearings?

No, I certainly didn't. In fact, I was thinking not of releasing the audio and Jamie Gangale at

CNN and my wife Elsa Walth persuaded me no in this era when people distrust everything especially the media

uh... trumps voices the most recognizable voice in the world perhaps,

put it out, and then people can hear it for themselves.

Even after doing this for 50 years you learn things about how to communicate

and quite honestly i didn't realize that at the time we've now released 38 clips.

I think my assistant Steve Riley still still has eight hours and

30 minutes.

...