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Bloomberg Surveillance

Surveillance: Fed Tightening with Jones

Bloomberg Surveillance

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Business News, News, Investing, Business

3.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 September 2022

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Kathy Jones, Charles Schwab Chief Fixed Income Strategist, says it's unsustainable to have the Fed hiking rates at a very rapid rate with the economy slowing. Chris Verrone, Strategas Partner & Head of Technical & Macro Strategy, thinks yields are going to remain stickier and higher than consensus. Alicia Levine, BNY Mellon Wealth Management Head of Equities & Capital Market Advisory, expects to see an equity market bump coming out of the US midterm elections. Jonathan Miller, Miller Samuel President & CEO, says we are absolutely underestimating the demand in the housing market. 

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Bloomberg Surveillance Podcast.

0:07.3

I'm Tom Keane, along with Jonathan Farrell and Lisa Abramowitz.

0:12.2

Daily, we bring you insight from the best.

0:15.1

An economics, finance investment, and international relations, find Bloomberg Surveillance

0:20.7

on Apple Podcasts SoundCloud,

0:22.9

Bloomberg.com, and of course, on the Bloomberg Terminal.

0:28.6

Kathy Jones is here to weigh in.

0:30.6

She's fixed income strategist to Chatswaffe. She's not.

0:33.3

Kathy, stay with us. Don't worry. I'm not coming to you on that.

0:35.9

Kathy, we all want to know a 10-year through 350, a two-year approaching 4%. Kathy, stay with us. Don't worry. I'm not coming to you on that. Kathy, we all want to know a 10-year through 350, a two-year approaching 4%. Kathy, these big buys, either one of them for you?

0:45.1

Well, we like extending duration here. I think it's unsustainable to have the Fed hiking rates

0:50.9

at a very rapid rate doing QT with with, you know, the economy slowing.

0:57.4

We've had six months of declining LEI.

0:59.8

We're seeing the housing market decline.

1:03.0

These are unsustainable trends.

1:04.9

At some stage of the game of the Fed will have to shift and or, you know, we're just going

1:09.6

to go into a deeper recession than we may already

1:12.9

be in and so we do like extending duration albeit yeah rates could continue to move up but I

1:20.1

think all we're getting is a deeper and deeper inversion of the yield curve here and Kathy this

1:24.5

call on extended duration ultimately has to be a call on the economy

1:27.9

rolling over. Do you have an idea of the pain threshold the Fed is willing to go through?

1:33.8

Well, I did mention pain for households and businesses last time, and I think there's a

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