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cloud Bloomberg. getting nervous about something. The Vicks, 1681, certainly above where it's been four months,

although off a little bit from the last couple of days. What are they nervous about?

They nervous about the end of stimulus? Are they nervous about the end of stimulus are they nervous about

slowing growth around the world locksman aichthon is the co-founder and chief

operations officer of the Economic Cycle Research Institute and he is here with us this morning.

Good morning, Lachman.

Good morning.

When you do your models and we'll get to your forecast in a moment. You're not predicting a recession right away, but do you include financial markets in what you do because the feds they criticized because their Ferbus model does not include financial market feedback effect

Sure in the big picture we don't have models. We're looking at indicators which move ahead of turning points in growth or inflation cycles.

A small M model.

Yeah, small model.

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