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Chasing Excellence

Surplus Value Mindset: Become the Person Everyone Wants on Their Crew (w/ Chris Irwin & Mark England)

Chasing Excellence

Ben Bergeron & Patrick Cummings

Health, Education, Mindset, Crossfit, Wellness, Self-improvement, Holistic Health, Health & Fitness, Fitness

4.82.2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2026

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Are you an asset to the people around you, or are you unknowingly becoming a burden? In this conversation with Chris Irwin and Mark England, we explore the surplus value mindset—the difference between those who add more than they take and those who don't. Discover how to become the person everyone wants on their team, in their family, and in their community.

We break down the simple question that transforms how you show up: in this situation, am I an asset or a burden? Learn how physical and mental fitness both come down to your capacity to respond, why breathing is the baseline skill for leadership and contribution, and how self-awareness is the first step toward creating real value in the world.

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before we get into the episode a simple request if you like this episode if you like any of the

0:35.5

episodes we put out every single week we would absolutely love it if you would share it with one friend. That's it. Just send them a text, send

0:42.5

an email, mention it next time you see them at the gym. Let them know that they may also like

0:47.7

chasing excellence. There's no better way for us to grow our crew here at the show than if

0:52.9

folks like you who are already listening,

0:55.7

share it with somebody who should be here. If you got a friend who's not listening,

0:58.9

please consider sending them this episode or any of your favorite episodes. We thank you in advance.

1:03.9

Okay, let's get into it.

1:09.2

Hello and welcome back to the show.

1:13.3

I have to thank you so much for joining me.

1:15.2

I have a very special episode here, one that I have been excited about for approximately a week

1:19.6

when I knew that this was going to happen.

1:21.3

I've got two friends of the show joining me today.

1:24.1

We've got Chris Irwin, who's been on the show a bunch, creator of Rare Sense. We did a

1:29.3

very long, very good, detailed episode relatively recently called The Five Mind Killers, where I

1:35.3

compiled four episodes into one. So if you want a three and a half hour deep dive on Chris's

1:40.7

concept of mind killers and countermeasures, I highly recommend you go check that out. Hi, Chris. How the heck are you? Good, man. Good to see you. Thanks for having me back. I keep, I'm doing enough here not to screw this up, so you keep inviting you back. I keep bringing you back. And then we've got Mark England, co-founder of Enlisted. Mark was on not too long ago, actually, to talk about Kidland's Law and about

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