Hello and welcome back to another episode of the City Journal podcast.

I am your host, Raphael Mangual, and I am joined today by the most famous Georgetown,

Professor Emeritus, Ilya Shapiro, also my colleague here at the Manhattan Institute

where he works at our Center for Constitutional Studies, Ilya, how are you?

I'm doing all right. It's the spring, so it's Supreme Court speculation and get those

opinions outseason. That's right. That's right. And that's exactly what we're going to do on

today's episode. We're going to speculate. We're going to talk about the future of the court. But I want to start with just a

quick overview of some of the interesting decisions that have come down. I mean, a lot of people

may not know this, but the Manhattan Institute is super, super active at the Supreme Court. We're

constantly filing amicus briefs in cases that are

before the court or that are likely to come before the court. So why don't you just start us off

by talking a little bit about some of the opinions that have already come down, particularly

with the focus on the ones that MI has been involved in? Yeah, we actually file a lot at the cert stage,

meaning at the stage where the court is deciding whether to take up a case. And that's very,

very important. You don't get as much publicity for that, but it's an important step because the

court reverses or vacates the lower court opinion in upwards of two-thirds of the

cases that it takes. So getting it to take an important case is more than half the battle. And so

we're very good. We have a higher than, much higher than the normal rate of getting our cases

taken up. The cases before the court, the biggest one in which we were involved that's been decided already is probably Childs v. Salazar.

This is a case of a licensed counselor in Colorado that ran afoul of a state law that says you cannot counsel people regarding gender dysphoria or other sexual

issues unless you're going to take a progressive perspective, affirming a sex change.

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