Hi this is karene

is karene. Hi this is katey from Washington DC and you're left to know me

athlete radio. Hey everyone welcome to another episode of No Meat Athlet Radio.

I'm Matt Frazier no Doug Hay today because I am traveling and doing an interview and I happen to be doing this, Matt

Tolman, who is our guest today, from my mom's house in Sarasota, Florida.

I'm down here, going to be going to be going to the vegan crews next week, leaving from Florida, of course course but I am in Sarasota and on the rare

occasion that I happen to record a podcast from my mom's house I like to point

out that I am now a whatever I am 36 year old podcaster doing it out of my mom's basement.

This one's not literally my mom's basement, but I did one with Doug a while ago, I think it was like two, three years ago,

where it was quite literally at my mom's basement. So that was a milestone for me.

Anyway, on a more serious note, we are,

today we're talking about nutrients, supplements,

with my friend, I got named Matt Tolman, who we've started doing some work together,

have just connected really well over dinner talking about a book that Matt is writing

and is coming out later this year about the plant-based diet and I found myself

particularly inspired basically Matt I may as well talk to you you're here by your

entrepreneurial background and way of thinking and and particularly by your big grand vision of

big grand vision of having a third of the population essentially be

uh... be plant-based by the year twenty thirty So that is not a small goal, not a small vision.

It is. I really like that. So that has kind of, that jump started our our conversations and we've talked for many

hours since then and yeah we we see eye to eye I think we both have kind of an eye for

practicality and and just simplifying stuff that I think is overly

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