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Decoding the Gurus

Supplementary Material 30: Decoding Irish Stew, Owl Hate, and Hypothetical Avoidance

Decoding the Gurus

Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne

Science, Leisure, Social Sciences, Society & Culture

4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Prepare for a hearty mix of culinary tips, avoidance of hypothetical scenarios, and the usual guru grievances. Will Jordan Peterson ever admit he's a Christian? Is it ever truly possible to understand Sam Harris AND still disagree with him? And where does Joe Rogan's primal hate for owls come in? Tune in for at least some of the answers to these pressing questions in this bubbling broth of an episode.

Supplementary Material 30

00:00 Introduction and Culinary Corner

12:29 The Buddhism Book cometh

14:09 Joe Rogan on Astrology

25:22 Rogan's Christian Conversion?

32:18 Rogan on Owls...

43:09 Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists

48:55 Is JBP a Christian?

54:34 It depends what you mean by believe...

01:00:22 Jordan Peterson vs. hypotheticals

01:13:54 Hancock Orbiters continue to be terrible

01:19:58 Sam Harris' Business Manager is kinda bad

01:26:22 Sam is being misinterpreted again

01:35:11 The Fundamentalist Impulse

01:38:09 Post-Debate Weinstein Activity

01:40:32 Sam Harris is still mad with Ezra Klein

01:48:39 Outro

The full episode is available for Patreon subscribers (1hr 49 mins).

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Sources

- A good Irish Stew recipe

- The Buddhism Book!

- Joe Rogan Experience #2323 - Guy Fieri

- Jubilee: Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists | Surrounded

- Dan Richards' charming tweet to Flint

- Professor Dave: Dan Richards is a Pointless Troll

- "More From Sam": Religion, Deportations, Douglas Murray vs. Rogan, & Bill Maher's Dinner with Trump

- “More From Sam”: Trump & Israel, Corruption, Free Speech Violations, the Democrats, & Ezra Klein

- Sam Harris' Substack: What Whataboutery?

- Sam and Ezra's email exchange

- Vox: Charles Murray is once again peddling junk science about race and IQ. Podcaster and author Sam Harris is the latest to fall for it.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Hello and welcome to Decoding the Guru's supplementary material.

0:32.0

This is the companion relaxed podcast, the Big Breller podcast of the actual decodings here.

0:40.7

It's more relaxed.

0:41.8

It's more of a, you know, chilled out atmosphere.

0:44.7

I'm Chris Gabna, Irish in Japan, Northern Irish, if you like, in Japan.

0:50.3

And he's Matthew Brown, psychologist of alleged Irish descent currently pierced in Australia.

1:01.3

I have the documents. I have the documents. Did they have it like a shamrock stamp on them?

1:08.3

Or just like the imprint of a potato rolled over with ink.

1:12.1

Yep, yep, great big stamp with a potato, certified Irish, yep.

1:16.5

Oh, that's pretty good.

1:18.2

Well, yeah, yeah, now we've got another, you know, hot steaming plate of supplementary

1:23.9

materials fresh off the stove, haven't we? And you know what else is fresh off the stove haven't we and you know what else is fresh off the

1:30.6

stove Chris oh what's else what else you already know because you've been talking to me about it

1:36.4

the Irish stew I'm cooking Irish stew at the moment I just finished he had to wait

1:41.0

Chris was very patient he said Matt Matt you got to record the supplementary materials. I said, no, Chris. I have to finish the Irish stew.

1:49.0

And I said, no problem. That's fine. Go. That's all right. Yeah. You know, family members die or that kind of thing. No, we got to record. But like, you're going to cook our shoe? No, I understand.

2:01.3

I understand. Everything else, you don't understand. Much less tolerant of. But, you know,

2:06.0

I checked it out with you. I got confirmation from you that all my steps were correct. And I think,

2:12.8

you know, sometimes when we talk about stuff, we are at loggerheads, consciousness, for instance,

2:16.9

we get ourselves tied up in little lots.

2:18.8

But I feel like, I feel like you generally approved of my process.

2:24.1

Your ingredient suggested that this was S-tier, R.Sew, that you're working on.

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