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H.B.R. presents. Hi, I'm Azimazar, and you're listening to a special episode of the Exponential View

podcast. My guest today is the Professor of Politics at Cambridge University, David Runceman.

Now, I'm a huge fan of David's. I his podcast talking politics. I've listened to it for years

He explores many of the topics that are similar to the ones I've explored in this series

Like the future of money, the nature of authoritarianism, climate change and capitalism.

And I've enjoyed his perceptive analyses on other topics like the cut and thrust of European politics

Brexit, Trump and Democracy. I said this is a special episode. It is in fact the second

half of an extended conversation that I had with David. You can listen to this

episode on its own and then go and catch the other half on the Talking Politics Podcast.

Just look for it wherever you get your pods.

Now there won't be an episode of the Exponential View Podcast next week, but normal service

will resume on February the 5th when I'm in conversation with

Brad Smith the president of the tech firm Microsoft. I'm really delighted to have

David in the studio with me today David David welcome to Exponential View. Thanks very much. So we touched on a lot of different topics around my

predictions for the next decade in our earlier conversation. I was really struck by something that you've been thinking about a lot.

Today we're in the fifth, sixth or seventh year of a wave of artificial intelligence this idea that there are these new machines

that will suffuse us with superhuman capabilities that will allow us to do new types of things.

Now you're a historian and you said to me well I've

really been thinking about the last time we did this and we've already had experience

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