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H.B.R. presents. Hi there, I'm Azimazar and in my weekly podcast exponential view I look at how our world is changing under the force of technology.

In my newsletter of the same name I recently wrote about how the world of 20-20s will change how climate breakdown,

geopolitics and AI will shape the opportunities and challenges before us.

You can find that essay at W.W.

Exponential View. Today I'm sitting in Brussels with the President of Microsoft Brad Smith.

Brad, thank you for being here.

Thank you.

You are a lawyer by training and you've helped build this corporate behemoth,

Microsoft a trillion dollar company and despite being a lawyer in a corporate behemoth with a

tech lash you've got a pretty good reputation for a lot of people really like you they see you as one of the good guys

You've also written a highly engaging book with Caroline Brown called Tools and Weapons

and you're not shy of getting into issues around content moderation China AI bias

Microsoft success and failures and even rarely for a tech company you talk about

the successes of your competitors. It calls for more regulation and better

engagement, civic and political engagement in the tech industry. Why do you think

it's taken so long for the industry to call for more of this external regulation?

In a sense, why is this book coming out now, not five years ago?

That's a great question and I think in some ways you could even step back more broadly and ask why has

digital technology gone unregulated so long? Because in many ways we're in the

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