This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host. This is the James Altiger show. So Jamie Metzoll, you've been on the podcast at a gazillion times for the first time since COVID and you're our

favorite futurists you keep track of all the amazing things going on like in

previously we've talked about genomics but now of course there's genomics

combined with AI combined with all sorts of other things,

and you write about that in this excellent book, Superconvergence, how the genetics, biotech and

AI revolutions will transform our lives work and world.

Great cover by the way. I like the cover.

Thank you. You know, James, these covers, I'm very happy that you like it because

there were multiple iterations and I had to kind of

fight in a loving way saying no it's not just right so we spent a lot of time

getting that cover so I'm glad you like it. Well what's what's exciting you the most in the future?

I read the book, but there's a lot of complicated stuff in there.

You talk about everything from GMOs to edit, you know, creating new animals that you call new animals for food and of course the latest in genomics and

Crisper which you and combined particularly with AI.

So what's exciting you the most?

So the big summary of the thing I'm most excited about

and most worried about because it's two sides of the same coin is that after nearly 4 billion years of evolution

this is the dawn of human engineered intelligence and human re-engineered life.

Our one species suddenly has the god-like ability

to recast life, to give, essentially give birth to what what is whether we want to call it a

species a new form of intelligence and either it's kind of a binary outcome

either will use these superpowers to build a much better safer world with

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