Hello, this is Sarah Goodyear, and this is the War on Cars.

We're enjoying a little downtime here as summer comes to a close,

but we'll be back in September with new episodes that we're really excited about.

In the meantime, we wanted to share the conversation I had

last winter with bike legend Gary Fisher, which we previously released exclusively

to our Patreon supporters. It's a taste of what you get if you sign up to support the

podcast at the War on Cars.org. But before we get to Gary, here's a word from

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I had a definite mission.

I wanted to get more people to ride bikes.

Hello, this is Sarah Goodyear, and this is a Patreon special edition of the War on Cars.

What do you think of when you hear the name Gary Fisher?

Maybe an image of a mountain bike comes into your head.

And a Gary Fisher is definitely a bike, or rather a brand of bike, now owned by the

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