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Hi, I'm Laura Vanderkamp.

I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, and speaker.

And I'm Sarah Hart Unger, a mother of three, practicing physician, writer, and course creator.

We are two working parents who love our careers and our families.

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Welcome to Best of Both Worlds. This is Laura. This episode is airing in mid-June of 2026.

We're going to be talking Father's Day, and we will also be talking summer reading,

which, of course, is something that is big around this time of year with lots of book guides

coming out, people looking for ways to lean into that during the summer months. But first,

Father's Day coming up next weekend here in the United States.

Sarah, do you have any particular memory of Father's Day activities as a kid?

So when I think of Father's Day, I think of cheese.

Cheese, okay.

Because.

Because every year, my dad was actually not typically home for Father's Day.

He had this law course that was in Madison, Wisconsin, that was like always the same time every year. And it was held over the weekend of Father's Day. We did actually go with him one year. I got to experience my first tornado siren in Madison. I'm sure that was fun for you. Maybe that's the source of the lightning phobia for the future. Possibly, maybe.

I remember getting in the basement of our hotel. Anyway, so he would go, and we didn't do anything for Father's Day, and he always came back with a whole bunch of cheese in his suitcase, which he bought at the Babcock Hall creamery, and now I'm like, put it in your suitcase? Like, wouldn't that be, like, room temp? But it seemed to be fine. We all ate it and it was really good cheese.

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