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The Briefing Room

Sudan conflict: what led to this?

The Briefing Room

BBC

News, News Commentary

4.8731 Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

David Aaronovitch and guests discuss the latest events in Sudan. Fighting has been commonplace ever since Sudan gained independence but what's behind the latest violence?

Guests:

James Copnall - currently presenting Newsday on the BBC World Service and formerly the BBC's Sudan correspondent

Mohanad Hashim - Sudanese journalist working on Newshour on the BBC World Service

Dame Rosalind Marsden, associate fellow at the Chatham House International Affairs and former UK ambassador to Sudan

Professor Alex De Waal, Executive Director of the World Peace Foundation and Research Programme Director with the Conflict Research Programme at LSE

Produced by: Kirsteen Knight, Claire Bowes and Ben Carter Edited by: Penny Murphy Sound engineer: Rod Farquhar Production co-ordinator: Siobhan Reed and Sophie Hill

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:09.0

Sudan, April, 2023, another country, another evacuation, another set of pictures of exhausted, relieved British passengers touching down on safe soil.

0:20.2

But what about the tens of millions left behind and the country they call home?

0:25.6

What's their history and how does their future look?

0:28.6

To put it simply, once all British nationals are safe,

0:32.6

does what happens in Sudan matter to us?

0:35.6

And if so, why?

0:38.7

Step inside the briefing room and together we'll find out.

0:45.6

First, a geography and history primer.

0:49.1

James Cotnell is the presenter of Newsday on the BBC World Service

0:52.6

and he was formerly our correspondent in Sudan.

0:56.4

It's often seen as the bridge between the African and the Arab worlds. So in the northeast

1:00.8

corner of Africa, Egypt and Libya to the north, South Sudan to the south. It's seen as a gateway

1:07.1

between those two parts of the African continent. It's rich in terms of agriculture.

1:12.7

It's been described as the breadbasket of the Arab world. It had oil in the past. It's got a lot

1:18.0

of gold now. So it has resources, but it's a very, very poor country, certainly by British

1:24.9

standards. It's almost entirely Muslim now, that there are some Christian

1:30.8

communities and people who follow traditional religions in the Nuba Mountains. But religion

1:35.7

and what should be the state religion has been vital parts of Sudan's drama and crises over the

1:41.6

last many decades, actually. How many people live there and how are they distributed around the country?

1:47.0

It's close to 40 million now, I think.

1:49.2

The majority of them probably live on it, one of its big geographical features.

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