You may be the first president in history to go down because you can't stop

inappropriately talking about an investigation. I can definitively say the

presence by the liar. I think it's frankly insulting that that question would be

asked. Up to now we have no profiles in courage among the Republicans.

Somebody really speaking out saying Trump is bad to the country.

Hello and welcome to another edition of the Trump cast book club. I'm Jacob

Weissberg and I'm here with Philip Gravich of the New Yorker and the author

Katie Roy Fee. Welcome back guys. Thank you.

Good to see you. So this month we have chosen a novel called Submission by the

French writer Michelle Welbach just to get started. How did you guys like it?

I feel I liked it more than Philip liked it. It's a page turner. It's fascinating.

I think this is the kind of book Jacob and I were talking about this earlier

we were cheating where you kind of resist it like you don't want to like it.

You kind of hate it and there's a lot that's sort of like contemptible about it.

But you end up being super absorbed. Yeah. I mean, I had the opposite feeling.

I loved the I just like went roaring into it. I had a great time. I laughed out loud

repeatedly during the early parts. I think Welbach's always sort of perverse

and brilliant and at least equal doses but but kind of dazzlingly funny and

just blunt and bizarre. And I thought some of the satire or parody of just

manners more than of politics although it goes there was great. And then frankly,

it became a boring novel of ideas where people are just hammering out ideologies

and like quoting Nietzsche and quoting this one and quoting that one and arguing

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