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Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward

Stumbling Over the Stumbling Stone With Paula D'Arcy

Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward

Center for Action and Contemplation

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 723 Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2024

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

How do we meet life on its terms instead of ours? In this episode, we're joined by Paula D'Arcy as we continue our chapter-by-chapter exploration of Falling Upward with Chapter 5: "Stumbling Over the Stumbling Stone." We're exploring what it can look like to venture into the luminous dark to find our greatest gifts with a chapter that asks us to lean into our feelings of devastation and loss when life doesn’t go our way. Before we dive in to the interview with Paula, CAC staff catch up with Richard at his hermitage to hear his reflections on the fifth chapter a decade after he originally wrote it. Paula D'Arcy, a writer, retreat leader, and conference and seminar speaker, travels widely in the United States, Canada, and abroad. She is also President of Red Bird Foundation, which supports the growth and spiritual development of those in need as well as those invested in the opening of the heart and the healing of this world. A former psychotherapist who ministered to those facing issues of grief and loss, Paula worked with the Peale Foundation, founded by Dr. Norman Vincent Peale, from 1980 until his death in 1993, and has written ten books. Today her work includes leading workshops and retreats related to spirituality, writing, women’s gatherings,( including Women’s Initiation and Rites of Passage), and creating venues where men and women experience an opening of the heart and a change in their way of being in the world. In recent years she has teamed with Richard Rohr to present seminars on the Male/Female Journey and Spirituality for the Two Halves of Life (for tapes from the conference on Spirituality for the Two Halves of Life and to purchase Paula’s books, click here.) Paula also serves as adjunct faculty at Oblate School of Theology in San Antonio, TX and Seton Cove Spirituality Center in Austin, TX. Resources: A PDF of the transcript for this episode is available here. Grab a copy of the newly revised version of Falling Upward, with a new foreword by Brené Brown here. To learn more about Paula D'Arcy and Redbird Foundation, visit her website here. Connect with us: Have a question or thought about this season that you'd like to share with us? Email us: podcasts@cac.org Send us a voicemail here: http://www.cac.org/voicemail

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0:00.0

You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation.

0:04.0

To learn more, visit cac.org.

0:07.7

Yogi Berra famously said,

0:10.0

When you come to a fork in the road, take it.

0:13.5

The upside-down wisdom of yogi saddles up nicely with falling upwards.

0:18.4

When what is in the way becomes the way,

0:22.8

we surprise ourselves in the aftermath by a resilience and aptitude to meet the moment. Richard calls this stumbling over

0:30.1

the stumbling stone. What trips you up in life can be instructive for your personal evolution

0:35.7

and transformation, if you allow it.

0:38.9

It might hurt like hell.

0:40.6

It might alter your life's trajectory, for there is no good or bad turn in the stumbling,

0:46.2

but there's always stumbling.

0:48.6

In today's conversation, we find ourselves on the front porch of Richard's Hermitage

0:53.0

to talk about the themes of Chapter 5,

0:56.2

stumbling over the stumbling stone. In our time together, we talk about the stones that lead to growth,

1:02.3

being scandalized, and the stumbles that lead us into the arms of mystery.

1:16.3

From the Center for Action and Contemplation, I'm Mike Petro.

1:17.7

I'm Paul Swanson.

1:19.2

And this is Everything Belongs.

1:26.8

Thank you, Richard, for having us back over.

1:32.5

We're excited to talk about Chapter 5, stumbling over the stumbling stone.

1:38.7

I want to start, if you're comfortable with it, of talking about, we all have these stumbling stones that we've come across in our life.

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