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The Hello and welcome to Red Minnes. My name is Allison. I am here with Brett and two guests that I'm very excited to have a conversation with and introduce shortly as kind of a brief upfront for this episode.

You can kind of think of this as a follow-up episode to the episode that we did previously talking about the student encampments.

So we spent some time trying to analyze those from sort of a theoretical and tactical perspective

and things have happened since we made that episode.

So, notably, that episode, I think we recorded the day before the UCLA encampment was attacked by Zionists and then later raided by police.

Columbia has cracked down on their encampment.

Many encampments have taken deals and come to agreements

with the university that involve disbanding

in exchange for a variety of different concessions from the university, there have been a lot of developments.

At the same time, there are also encampments that are still going and that are still involved in negotiations and are very actively continuing to struggle

through this right now. So we want to kind of touch on that by talking to some students

from some of the encampments. So real quick we have

Shelley here who is a student at Cal State LA part of the encampment there

where there is a ongoing encampment I think on day 31 today if I'm correct, that has

still been going and is very vibrant. And then we also have Pia from the

UO encampment which reached an agreement with the university and took a deal there and decamped in response to that.

And I don't know exactly how many days that encampment made it too exactly but it was also one of the

longer-lived ones. So that's a 24. 24 okay I mean still quite some time so with all that

said you know I mostly want us to have a conversation between the four of us and really hear from the experiences of the students at the encampments here from their perspective, what's going on, what's shifted, what the goal of the encampments

has been, how things have developed, you know, these broader questions. I think, you know,

we're in an interesting juncture point right now. There are not too many encampments left. The summer is coming. There's a real question about how the terrain of struggle is going to shift. And so now in my mind, you know, is a really good time to start to like wrestle with what the lessons are that we can learn from the last month and really figure out how that's going to lead us into the summer because you know obviously the genocidal violence in Palestine is not stopping anytime soon it looks like so the need to

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