Welcome to the Global Phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, STDS Nation, and welcome to another episode of Surviving The Survivor, the

podcast that promises to bring you the very best guest in all of True Crime.

And there's a live sneeze for you on STS.

I think that's the second live sneeze.

I have allergies kicking in today.

This is live breaking STS coverage of developments

coming out of rural Oklahoma in the panhandle,

we are awaiting an OSPI,

that's the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation

Press Conference, which is supposed to have

started three minutes ago

a local time we are seeing reporter Nancy Lou with a news nation there you go this is news

nation's Nancy Lou she was on the scene during breaking news this weekend.

weekend she also happens to be a very nice person per the COE. I have never met

Nancy Lou but the COE worked at News Nations. she's actually doing a report right now for News Nation, but this is the setup for where she is for the press conference.

That again is supposed to start three minutes ago, but we are hearing it is going to run late

The good part about running late is we've got our best guest here none other than Fame Tallahassee Criminal Defense Attorney

R. Timothy Janssen, who just got done doing something with Nancy Grace on this very topic and ran over here.

He is becoming a hot commodity in the world of media.

And then, of course, we all know the man in the light blue Oxford shirt that is

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