Strictly Stalking Presents: L.A. Not So Confidential

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🗓️ 5 December 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

An L.A. based podcast brought to you by two forensic psychologists who dissect the intersections where true crime, forensic psychology, and entertainment meet.

Episode Description:

Crazy In Love: Erotomania

Dr. Scott & Dr. Shiloh get into the subcategory of Delusional Disorder, Erotomania; to have the delusional or false belief of a secret or known admirer. This disorder is often the trigger for obsessive celebrity stalkers and has been the cause for numerous violent acts. The docs explore the origin, criteria, and research of this rare phenomenon and cover the cases of John Hinkley Jr., Margaret Mary Ray, and the shooter who killed rising star Christina Grimmie.

Related episode: Stalking: The Crime of the 90's

https://anchor.fm/lansc/episodes/25--Stalking-The-Crime-of-the-90s-e537ff

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Transcript

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0:00.0	We're excited to share this episode of LA Not So Confidential, featuring two incredible humans and experts, Dr. Shiloh and Dr. Scott.
0:09.0	You may remember Dr. Shiloh from our recent episode, stalking, psychology, and law enforcement.
0:14.6	They're diving into a topic that comes up often in the stalking cases that Jamie and I cover, Eratomania.
0:22.7	Dr. Scott and Dr. Shiloh are exploring this subcategory of delusional disorder, known as the false belief that someone, often a
0:28.2	stranger or public figure, is secretly in love with you. This disorder is frequently linked to
0:33.2	obsessive celebrity stalking and has been a factor in several violent incidents.
0:38.1	In this episode, you'll hear about the origins, diagnostic criteria, and research behind
0:42.9	this rare condition and examined notable cases including John Hinkley Jr., Margaret Mary Ray,
0:48.9	and the shooter who tragically took the life of Rising Star, Christina Grimmie.
0:53.2	You can find more information in our show notes.
0:57.6	Welcome back, everyone, to L.A. Not So Confidential. I'm Dr. Shiloh, and I am joined this week,
1:04.2	as always, by my lovely co-host, partner in crime, Dr. Scott. Hello. Hello. It's Dr. Scott here back from Alabama with a
1:14.8	banjo on my knee and about an extra five and a half pounds from the unbelievably delicious food
1:21.4	that I literally ate my way through my hometown. So you were able to get out of the closet that
1:26.8	you were in last time,
1:28.2	wedge yourself out of that and get home. Yeah. Yeah. Although like we were talking about before we
1:33.5	started recording, the funny thing was is that my sister-in-law's closet was probably one of the best
1:41.2	sound environments ever. And I had a little, you know, I had like this small Yeti mic that's been discontinued, but it's easy for travel. And I was like, oh, is this going to work? And our sound, I think we've even had people commenting on how good the sound was last time. I know. I know. Yeah, she had a huge closet, actually. So nobody was wedging their way out of that. No, I could get up and walk out, but this one I'm going to have to pull myself out of.
2:01.3	During the recording, did somebody walk in and grab something? That was her. Or did I imagine that? Because I thought I saw the background and you were just talking and I'm like, I think somebody's in there. Look, she did, like, I was so into talking. it wasn't, I felt movement at my feet and I thought it was the cat
2:20.9	and I looked down. Look, she did, like, I was so into talking. It wasn't, I felt movement at my feet.
2:18.3	And I thought it was the cat.
2:21.0	I looked down and it's my sister-in-law's like big shiny head.
	...

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