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listening. Terms apply. Hi, this is Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist,

and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Unger. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, and speaker.

And this is Sarah Hart Unger. I'm a mother of three, a practicing physician, and blogger on the side.

We are two working parents who love our careers and our families. Welcome to Best of Both Worlds.

Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, and time for fun. From figuring out child care to mapping out long-term career goals, we want you to get the most out of life.

Welcome to Best of Both Worlds. This is Laura. This is episode 159. Sarah and I will be interviewing

Josephine at Lori, who is a podcaster and writer and meditation

teacher.

And she talks about all sorts of wonderful things related to both her fertility journey

of becoming a mom of five and how we can all keep ourselves calm and our stress under

control in these difficult times.

So Sarah, how do you relieve stress these days?

Well, I had all these answers, but your intro also reminded me that I feel like I should give a

shout out to a book I just read, which was Carla Nomburg's How Not to Lose Your, we never curse on

this podcast.

So I'll just spell it out.

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