There has to be some common sense.

There has to be some common sense.

Yes, sir.

They have the car stopped in ten and branch microphone.

We still don't know who pulled the trigger. Hello everyone and welcome to police off the Cuff Real Crime Stories.

I'm your host, retired NYPD Sergeant Bill Cannon, a 27-year veteran of the NYPD.

And with me today, it's actually the afternoon, is retired NYPD sergeant and professor

from Albertus Magnus College in New Haven, Connecticut.

Professor Michael Geary, how you doing today, Mike?

Good, Bill.

Thank you having me on this afternoon.

Well, it's my pleasure to have you here.

I think a lot of people are liking you, Mike.

I don't know what is that.

I don't know.

So, you know, Mike, one of the things we wanted to talk about, of course, is as this case develops in the courts, is the evidence.

Because the evidence is a huge thing, and very little of the evidence has been released by the police so far.

And if we just discussed the evidence in an offhanded way,

and I asked even an amateur crime watcher,

what's the most powerful evidence so far in this case?

And by far, it would be the DNA. The DNA recovered on that knife

sheath. And even though it's touched DNA, and we probably would prefer to have blood DNA,

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