This is The Reason interview with Nick Gillespie.

My guest today is David Lowry, the legendary frontman of the band's Camper Van Beethoven and Cracker, Digital Copyright Crusader, Ph.D., and longtime Reason Reader.

We dive deep into a sprawling, deeply personal new record, fathers, sons, and brothers.

And we also talk about how the music industry broke

and maybe just maybe how to fix it.

He sued Spotify and other streaming services in the past,

teaches business at the University of Georgia,

and he's dropped what might be the best one-liner

about selling out since the Who back in their 60s heyday.

If you care about music, creative freedom, and getting paid for your work, this one is for you.

Here is the Reason interview with David Lowry.

David Lowry, it is a pleasure to be talking to you. Thanks for talking to reason.

Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here. And you have told me in a different conversation when you were a we student at UC Santa Cruz, you had a roommate or a dormmate who was a reason reader. Can you remind me about that?

Yeah. Well, there was a couple, but the kind of connections to that. But yeah, I had a, he wasn't really a roommate, but he lived in the same

building was a guy that we just called Scott the Anarchist. And that was sort of where my

introduction to the magazine came from. And then I

later, when I was in college, I worked at a farm, which is detailed on this solo album. And the

owner was just a full-blown, a narco-capitalist, I would say.

And...

So did that mean you had to pay to leave the job every day or something like that?

Or, you know, I mean, that could be a brutal regime.

Right.

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